A 15-year-old student at Garfield Park, a private school for children with emotional or behavioral disorders, was shot twice after he threatened the police with a pair of scissors. The incident happened in front of the school. The boy was first threatening some school employees and also some students, before he ran out on the parking lot where he pointed two scissors at a police officer. He was asked to put his weapon down, and a witness said that she heard how they yelled ”put it down, put it down!” before the sound of two gunshots being fired. She said she went out to see what was going on and there she saw the victim lying on his side clutching his stomach. The officer that shot the boy, William Smith, was not injured. The shooting will be investigated according to the Burlington County Prosecutor's Office. The boy was reported in critical but stable condition at Cooper University Hospital, Camden. Carol Dunn had a similar incident with the police in New Jersey, where her son was shot by an officer outside a church because he refused to let go of the knife he was holding. "I think police should take every necessary step to save lives. This should be included in their training," she said. "Are they interested in taking lives or is the state of New Jersey interested in saving lives?"Friday, 30 January 2009
Police shoots a 15 year old mental disabled kid
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A 15-year-old student at Garfield Park, a private school for children with emotional or behavioral disorders, was shot twice after he threatened the police with a pair of scissors. The incident happened in front of the school. The boy was first threatening some school employees and also some students, before he ran out on the parking lot where he pointed two scissors at a police officer. He was asked to put his weapon down, and a witness said that she heard how they yelled ”put it down, put it down!” before the sound of two gunshots being fired. She said she went out to see what was going on and there she saw the victim lying on his side clutching his stomach. The officer that shot the boy, William Smith, was not injured. The shooting will be investigated according to the Burlington County Prosecutor's Office. The boy was reported in critical but stable condition at Cooper University Hospital, Camden. Carol Dunn had a similar incident with the police in New Jersey, where her son was shot by an officer outside a church because he refused to let go of the knife he was holding. "I think police should take every necessary step to save lives. This should be included in their training," she said. "Are they interested in taking lives or is the state of New Jersey interested in saving lives?"
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come on now shoot the kid ,why didnt they taze him and then take his weapon
How insane.why not just throw a net over him or even try something new and different talk to him!perhaps try it with kindness and compassion.
But no these lunatics who think they are entitled to hurt others because they have a badge try to kill a kid with problems how insane.
Richard Thompson
Why shoot the kid twice? He could have been tazed or shot in the leg.. police need to learn how to handle situations better instead of shooting first and asking questions later.
PEOPLE WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES OFTEN PROCESS LIFE AROUND THEM DIFFERENTLY. POLICE NEED TRAAINING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM
Is this site for real? Police have one of the hardest jobs. The kid had a weapon! They are not out there to take chances. They have families to go home to. They are not there to be abused!
I think they didn't use a taser because New Jersey police aren't allowed to have them. But then again I'm not 100% positive that is true.
grown men with supposed training? preserve and protect? what? their own asses? a 15 year old child? had he a gun, i could understand, but RUNNING WITH SCISSORS?!? I have had to protect myself in hand to hand, and i have known when a threat is a real threat, and when it is safely walked away from. granted, cops cant walk away,but they are supposed to be professionals.
police in the US are taught to dominate every situation. In other countries, most of western Europe, the attitude is policing by consent, and as a result do not need to deploy overwhelming force to every situation.
They may have had to rough him up a bit to protect their own safety as wells as his safety, but they didn't have to shoot him.
Protect and serve the people, thats a huge lie....
It is more Abuse and ill treat the people...
Thats why today most of the public are afraid of them.
So who do you turn to when you're afraid of the one thats sopposed to protect you because all they do is hurt you.
These police officers uses there power to take advantage of people, something should be done about it soon.
How many more of our children must die because of these cops that are driven by that rush they get when they shoot someone. This story is so sad, ok the kid had a wepon as they called the scissors. Why not dissable the kid even if with a shot, to the leg. My God two Shots in the stomach they are Sick Human Beings.
More of America's exemplary way of life that they keep telling us, the rest of the world, that we are supposed to envy so much.
No thank you.
sounds like the cops over reacted, but i was not in their shoes at the time
Whoever wrote the comment "stupid kid" must be a stupid person.We also know that the officers have families to go home to, but they could have tried a different approach. I work with mentally challenged people everyday. When they are in their psychotic mode,we are trained to talk calm to them,back off, and allow them time to calm down.
"Why not shoot him in the thigh or foot?"
They're trained to shoot for the "center mass". Best target to aim for to get the desired effect, which is to stop the suspect.
"Most cops are there cause they get a rush carrying a gun"
Yeah, I'm sure it's worth going through months of training, putting yourself in harm's way, and dealing with people dumb enough to believe that because a profession has some corrupt members all members of it must be corrupt, all so you can carry something that will get you pulled through the wringer if you ever have to use it to defend yourself or someone else.
The Answer to the Question is easy.
The Evidence of all the tazer and gun shootings incidents around the Country combined, at least the ones we here about, indicate that the Jack-boot behavior of Police are intentional and are designed to take lives for the Purpose of creating fear in the Public.
The PoliceBrutality website and websites like it will always have plenty to report.
this is a result of poor training and lack of control on the part of the officer, he had several different options here, instead of yelling at the kid, they should have tried to reason with him, then if that fails, he could have maced boy, they all carry mace, the worst scenario would have been, that he tazerd the boy, but shooting him twice in the belly is way over the top. Shame on that cop.
I think quick action is best. However a tazer would have been a better choice, but some police depts dont have funding for unconventional tactics such as this, so they have to resort to their issued fire arm. Also, this was at a school for mentally disabled children. What if he had taken a hostage or had a breakdown and just stabbed a kid? That happened in my town. The idiot took a hostage and started slowly cutting at him and said he was going to kill him.. so a sharp shooter shot him in the temple.
The police did the right thing.. a NON lethal shot to the abdomen..
A retard with scissors? Damn i would have shot that spaz if he was threatening me with scissors! why do think schools isolate them from the rest of the kids, so they don't hurt people. maybe next time the kid won't act foolish... ( for every one who is very pissed off right now from reading this, I'm joking) i just wanted to get a rise out of you idiots!!! In todays world bad things happen. This is very unfortunate... but it's a sad truth...
maybe they should have given him a vest with his helmet....
I have bipolar disorder. Nice to know if I miss more meds and am sick I'll get put down like a dog instead of getting help.
I cant believe what I am reading here. To protect and serve yea there own ass to. If he did what he was told to do he won't have been shot. As far as training goes they did what they are trained to do the kid was the only one hurt they could have killed him BUT there training he is only wounded. None of this would have happened if he did what he was told to do.
Throw a net over him? Police carry nets?
Here's a clue... if you have a weapon, and a cop points a gun at you and says DROP IT, it would be in your best interest to do just that, unless your intention is to commit suicide. And, Bumbledum, I'd remcommend making sure you take your meds--and if your bipolar disorder makes you so dangerous that if you forget, you go out threatening people with a deadly weapon, perhaps you SHOULD be put down like a dog before you hurt or kill someone.
Button2cute:
Ignorance is seen by society and education is needed badly for everyone. There are many ways to diffuse a crisis situation at any school with the correct officials. In the schools for the mental and physical disabled individuals a crisis team should be assemble. A crisis team should handle the situation prior to the outside officials are brought into the situation. The crisis team are trained to handle the mental and physical disabled individuals on varies levels, situations and techniques to resolve the situation. This will eliminate the miscommunication, misinterpretation, and misuse of power by anyone who is following protocol. Therefore, a crisis team should be assemble for these schools and be the first responded for all situations at their schools.
For society, a lot of education and training techniques should be given to the appropriate occupational groups and individuals. Several techniques for the non-disabled population will heighten the situation, possible work and no effects will occur. For example, a hearing impaired individual will not be able to hear or be able to have a verbal communication with anyone. How would the situation be handled? This is a very important and reasonable question to ask. For many years, diabetic individuals were incarcerated for intoxicated and charge DUI. The deaf or hearing impaired w/ no verbal communication individuals were missed incarcerated for resisting arrest, disobeying officer’s commands (something like it) and battery. Another example, the hearing impaired individuals were misdiagnosis by physicians and psychiatrists. These examples have shown the need of education and skill training for everyone. These posts, school, and society are in need of education and training of the Disabled Youths and Adults.
I will sign my name Button2cute…..
Our policemen are brave, and risk their lives every day in the streets to protect lives of decent people and families. I have always found extremely human and kind traits in our officers.We should support them, instead of defending the criminals rights. They also have families and kids that are waiting for them at home; therefore, they should protect themselves also. Those who are protesting for the actions that they take against criminals, would do better if they ask some parents and families, and some communities, to teach responsibility to their younger and educate them to be proper citizens.It is sad that any human being dies, but it is more sad that this person kills or injures other innocent human beings, because the society did not do any thing to avoid it. Thanks,officers for the courageous and great work you do every day!!!!!,From: a teacher and a mother.
How sad. I would think that before they give someone a badge they would teach them how to properly handle situations such as this. The blame should be on thhe people in charge who sent these officers out without proper training.
Maybe they should have tazed him, but do we know the WHOLE story? Was he holding scissors up to his throat? Media likes to make police look stupid. Anyone who hasn't been in that kind of situation doesn't have the proper mindset to determine what proper training is. What determines innocence these days?
Don't take a knife (err, scissors) to a gun fight.
they did the right thing who knows they taze him and it doesnt work and he runs over and stabs them. they know how to determine how much force is required on a certain call and on this one shooting him was the right move
That's NOT unlike the maniacs they hire these days. Common sense is a screen out. Must be maniacal to even consider wanting to be a donut eating, gun toting, badge wearing, citizen abusing, hero wanna be, public employee.
This makes me feel real good, my son has autism and several times he has been running around with scissors and he doesn't always listen... Great to know that thanks to his sickness, THAT HE CAN'T CONTROL, he might get shot.
Thank god for men and women who have to make tough decisions like this. This boy was a threat to himself and others. Shooting in the leg is rarely an option, and I believe that these cops did the right thing. Bravo!
we do what we have to do to go home at night. we are not marksmen contrairy to popular belief. we are trained to shoot center mass, meaning the upper torso; the largest target. for cops we have to make split second decisions to save out own lives and the lives of the general public. its easy to criticize when you are hearing the story second hand. i'm not passing judgement because i wasn't there, but its always easier to criticize someone when you aren't in their situation. i have a family to think about and support so if someone puts me in danger of death or serious bodily injury, i intend on making sure i go home at night. as im sure any normal person would. -philadelphia police officer
And they wonder why they will always be known as PIGS.
As I stated Education and Training is needed to work with the mental and physical disabled individuals.
The boy was 15 years old in physical age but his mental age possible was younger. A younger mental age cannot be reason as he is a 15 year old. This youth could have a mental age of a 6 year old and the choice of reprimand for a six year old would not be the same as a 15 year old.
I am not going to point blame. I am going to say education and training is needed. Each state should provide it and stop making excuses for the lack of funds. I believe the less ignorance we all are than less mistakes we all will make in life.
The schools should have crisis teams assemble to deal with situations and to resolve them prior to outside assistant is called. A crisis team will know how to deal with the individual and be familiar with the disorder. A crisis management team is train in self-defense techniques, hold techniques, take downs, and to prevent increase stress in the situation. Crisis teams objective is to prevent harm by the aggressor to others and most important to him or herself.
Do you realize many disabled youths and adolescents will hurt themselves? Some individuals will bite themselves, some will bang their head against a wall, some will throw themselves into traffic, some will cut themselves, some will do bodily harm and how would you handle them?
Their mental age is a 5 year old and their physical age is 16 years old. You may not chemical induce them by using psychological drugs, you may not take their rights from them and you may not physical, mental or verbal abuse them. How do you resolve them?
Some of the posters say "shoot them, tazor them, throw a net over them, shoot to kill them and etc" to resolve the situation. Guess what? Those answers are incorrect and I hope you never encounter a son or daughter of a senator or a prominent influential figure in society. There will be hell opening up where the child was shot or killed. I would never want to be in those shoes. The youth or adolescent may not have parents or interest party would be asking any detail of the situation at this time. Dam, your lucky day and the next you may not be.
This is a game of ignorance by the lack of responsibility in society, professional and personal.
Just imagine if your child or someone in your family is mental or physical disabled and someone took advantage of him or her. Or killed them because of the lack of knowledge or training due to lack of funds and point the finger game. I bet you would not be sitting here doing the finger pointing game.
I would hear different view points of how to prevent this tragedy from occurring again.
Stop, the Fecal talking and let's find solutions to prevent this from occurring again.
Everyone is human as much as you, and me. We all make mistake because we are not perfect robots and we malfunction time to time. So, we rebuild to make ourselves tougher and direct to those we are speaking too.
Stop pointing and write something to encourage the parents, police officers, and the schools to produce emergency protocols, have an overview about the youth in a book, how to reduce the stress and triggers of the individual and so on.
The Awareness of Disabled Individuals in our society and the importance of learning the difference in Disabled Individuals verse Non-Disabled Individuals.
Button2cute
The kid is not stupid, he is mental and if officers took sensitivity courses or ethical decision making courses then they would have been able to handle that situation much differently. The officer's attitude or demeanor was probably very rude and evil causing the victim to be confused. That officer needs serious counseling.
A person who is mentally disabled may fight with no inhibitions, and an individual fighting without inhibition can do a lot of damage, even unarmed. People who brought down the planes on 9/11 were armed only with box-cutters, just as non-threatening as scissors.
The way this article was written was very inflammatory, and I think it is preposterous to judge the officer on scene by just reading a one-perspective article which may well not even be presenting certain critical details of the scene.
Before judging the officer, I'd have to know the whole story, and I don't presume to sit in that seat based on what I've read here.
Shoot now ask later, when your trying to make sure you don't get hurt in the process it is the only way. A 15 year old kid wielding scissors weather they are disabled or not has more then enough potential to kill a grown person. I don't blame the cops one bit for protecting themselves. At least they shot him in the stomach. If it was me I would have put one in his head, and done everybody a favor.
I'm not trying to say that it's cool the officer used a gun instead of tazing the kid, but to the people asking, "Why shoot him twice/Why not in the leg?" it's because that's how officers are trained to use their gun. When you shoot at another human you aim for the largest area/center of mass in order to decrease the probability of a miss. The torso is the largest area you can target on a human, hence why the officers shot him there. That isn't an act of cruelty, that's doing what you were trained to do. Again, I'm not saying that it was 'right', but when an officer draws a gun it SHOULD be because they feel it has become a 'me or him' situation.
The real issue here is whether or not the officer was overreacting/panicking when he shot the kid or if his life was actually in immediate danger. Regardless of age, if a suspect has a weapon and has shown they are mentally imbalanced, armed, and willing to kill [the officer], the officer must place priority on stopping the suspect. In this situation if the officer _didn't_ use his gun and ended up getting killed, the kid could have gone on to kill more people. The officer would then be to blame for all of the resulting collateral damage that could have been prevented had he used the most effective means of stopping the kid (a gun). It's not pretty logic, but it's still sensible.
Note that the child was also shot in the stomach, an area less immediately lethal than the upper chest. That shows the officer at least made an effort to NOT kill the kid despite his decision to use a gun. I think we're dehumanizing this officer immediately upon reading the headline and not based on factual knowledge. None of us were direct witnesses to the shooting so we do not know exactly how events played out. We are in no place judge the officer's decision simply out of bias supplied by the headline. While I don't like the idea of shooting a 15 year old mentally handicapped kid, I won't say the possibility it was justified doesn't exist.
Scissors can kill you. Therefore using deadly force could very likely be a reasonable option.
Also, most agencies do not allow for warning shots. You shoot to stop the threat. If you shoot someone in the leg, they could still stab you.
The next time a cop refuses to listen to me I'll just shoot him too.
So first off... This is dumb, just like a lot of your comments and before I get flamed listen to my reasoning.
I have an explosive anger disorder as well as depression and I know that if I was in such a situation, if the police came up to me I would probably lash out and if I was tazed it would just piss me off and it would probably not effect me too much because of the adrenaline rush. Shooting him was the right thing to do, he was threatening students, teachers and the police.
Sometimes the police use excessive force but this is not one of those cases.
I'm trying to write a paper for my school to show that police only use necessary force not brutality, but this is making it a bit difficult
ha nuff said. actually i wrote an essay on how police use brutality too often (i was pissed off when a group of six police officers chased my cousin off a cliff in north carolina, let him fall, then kicked him repeatedly punching him and tasing him untill he died on the spot.. simply because he had an illegal drug. he didn't hurt anyone.) and this helps
"Is this site for real? Police have one of the hardest jobs. The kid had a weapon! They are not out there to take chances. They have families to go home to. They are not there to be abused!"
Because God knows a retarded child with a pair of scissors is a death-dealing killing machine to those poor, armed and trained grown men. Hell, we should just start sending those kids to Iraq and the job would be done no problem. You can go join them while you're at it.
This was an unfortunate case in which the officers did not consider other options other than shooting the 15 year-old. These days, police should let their training come in hand.
yeah, and if the kid injured someone you'd all ask where the police was
Who shoots a mentally challanged kid twice just because he had sicssors in his hands?
Who shoots a mentally challanged kid twice just because he had sicssors in his hands?
its not like he was coming at you he was just standing there.
If a mentally disabled child/person of any kind with a weapon, yes scissors can be and are weapons, assaulted me with malice I would take the necessary steps to protect myself, even if that meant shooting the individual. There are no eye witnesses except for a womem that states that she heard the event. Here hearing the event does not mean that the officer just saw the child and shot him. An officer is not going to just shoot someone, especially a child, just for fun.
What Have we all learned here? Shoot a mental kid if u feel threatend and youll get away with it! Well....only if your a cop of course
P.S. A mental Kid With Scissors can DEFFINATELY take out multiple cops who have guns and batons and tazers!!!
this makes police look bad they only shot the kid because he was a threat to himself and everyone around him. I'm doing an Investigative Portfolio for my school and this site is very funny and at the same time informative ^_^ thx for the comments guys i love readin 'em
hmm, the officer had a gun, (long range weapon) and the kid had scissors (can only be used if the victim is within arms length). they were in a parking lot, where there was plenty of space. the officer could not have possibly been backed into a corner, most likely not in a desperate enough situation to FIRE A GUN at the 15 year-old mentally disabled kid
alot of police officers dont have tazor or stun guns yet..they have to go through training in order to carry one
The cops in my home town tased a mentally challenged boy when he panicked because his mother was having a seizure. Excessive force was used when someone with a childlike mentality who had no idea what was happening to the person who takes care of him. These cops in my town are some serious corrupt mother f*ckers who deal in drugs and murder. But I guess thats what happens in a town full of sheep.
it was very stupid of the kid.. weather he was mentally retarded or not. he was threating other! that is stupid he put many people's live in danger.. the cops did what they were suppose to.. why treat somebody with special treatment if they r retarded.. everybody should be treated the same.. people should of known not to let the boy be around objects if he was retard.. he threatened the police so therefore he got shot.. its that simple.. why would a police officer put his life in danger of someone.. they shouldnt.. the officer was right with what he did
I have dissociative identity disorder and I could not control myself around a cop with guns.
I just heard about a group of "cops" getting gunned down in washington state. BRAVO to the gunman! What goes around comes around pigs.
My name is Ethan and I'm from calgary alberta canada and this makes me sooooooooooo mad these cops are a disgrace and they give a flying fuck bout us so listen here WE HAVE STAND UP TO POLICE BRUTALITY THESE ASSHOLES ARE DOING THIS WE WILL STOP THEM. I swear to god that I will not let this stand for this listen up to this quote guys and remeber that there are good cops and bad cops -- who make good decsisions and make terrible ones here is the quote : "..... These children that you spit on as they try to change their worlds are immune to your consultations they're quite aware of what they're going through".... and there is one more from me ..... there is still blood on the streets not from street fight not from war but from police brutality.
Give peace a chance --John Lennon
Police brutality is horrible and I hope u agree :'(
ethan again and blizzark is totally right only some are the bad ones
Well to settle thing if someone rushes an officer than can cover 21 feet before the typical officer can even draw a weapon let alone take aim. You dont break the gun unless there is a threat, hmmm deadly weapon within 21' possibly.
The child "threatened"... meaning to due harm to others. Sissors can cut just as well as a knife. How big was the "child", actually teenager, Ive seen 15 y/o over 6' 200 lbs. before.
The school was for "private school for emotional and behavior disorders"... meaning distruptive/unrully and not able to go to public schools. It does not say school for special needs or disabled. Autism and such go to schools for special needs
If the cop just let him run off into the surrounding homes who could say the teenager could not of killed someone or someone else's child. Did the teenager make the statement he was going to kill someone specific? The story does not say. Ask your self if the cops let him go, and he hated your child for whatever reason, then ran to your home and killed your kid. Who would you blame? Wow no win there. Talk to him, Im sure that was done by school officials at first, did it work? Nope
Think if you were at a parking lot nearby and he stabs you to get your keys so he can flee, remember he probably already had a learners permit....
So thank you officers for putting yourself in harms way to protect the surrounding public.
wow thats crazy that we have alot of grimmy ass cops who are suppose to be protecting us.but all they doing is killing us!!!they didnt have to shoot the little boy ,its bad enough the kid wasnt in the right mind .they couldve found another way to get him to calm down and drop the scissors....but no give someone a gun and a badge n they think they rule the world!!!
a lot of monday morning quarterbacking. walk awhile in the officers shoes dealing with the worst of the worst and watching some of your best friends die because they tried nice.
Maybe a tazer would have done the job.
Good for those cops who cares if the kid was retarded he should have Been taught to not be retarded
So...They can't use a taser, they can't talk him out of it, they can't even use pepper spray , no, they have to shoot him....Outrageous
where the scissors even metal for being it is a school for he meantally disabled? you would think plastic scissors would be in use for other students and teachers safety. i am sure a trained officer could think of an alternative to shooting someone specially knowing it is a mentally handicapped school or in front of any school for that matter.
I would agree with the comment way up the list about cops getting a rush from carrying a gun, especially when most of them can't hack real training.
-Marine
simple answer to why the cop acted so vicious.......hes a pig,they cant help themselves.
If only someone would get on wow and shoot the king of origgmar it would be so much better
sefawrgae
you know what, cops are so insecure. Picking on innocent people and taking their god damn anger out them because you had a horrible life, and were weak and got bitch slapped around.
When i heard this story, i so badly wanted to fuckin tell that cop off, and explain to him that he is a disabled kid who is mentaly unstable. I have a 8 year old, severly autistic brother, who makes decisions (even at a young age) that he doesn't know what he's doing, Whether it's spilling somthing out randomly out of frustration, or climbing somthing he's not supposed to. If this were to happen to my brother, i'd make sure those dick heads would get sued for every penny and piece of clothing they own. There needs to be a major change in law enforcment, they are getting way out of fuckin hand. I have one word for them, hoping they see this, "Grow up, get off your high horse and realize you aren't fucking god. You are a normal human being, who doesn't have the right to push people around just because you had a shitty life. Get over yourself and cut the shit. Do your job to 'Protect and Serve, Not to 'Harrass and Abuse". It's getting really old! Do what you guys were meant to do, dont sit and write tickets all day, but instead make the neighbor hood feel like they can depend on you, and not be scared shitless of you.
You know what, i am a very respectfull teenager, and thats the way my parents raised
me, but this is somthing that needed to be
expressed. And im sorry for the 1 out of 10
good police officers, but i do not and never will respect you.
both tazering and using a gun would've been unnessecary, police officers are trained to handle situations, and i'm 100% positive that 2 trained adult police officers could have disarmed a 15 year old boy, it's ridiculous police no longer know the words"to serve and protect"
fuck the police plain and simple. i will never respect any of them. for what? because they go to some academy for a year or cuz their daddy has money so they get to wear a blue fucking uniform with some bitch ass badge? they get to choose whose lives they ruin. if they like you, or they know you, you get let off. if they assume you're some badass disrespectful kid..or if they have to make their quota so they get a nice fat bonus in their paycheck..you can bet you're gonna get the highest fines possible and they wont stop til they bring charges on you for everything they can find..even if they have to put it there themselves. fucking morons. what gives them the right to hurt people, emotionally and physically? the police forces across this country are a joke. simple as that. a joke. they mean nothing to me, and deserve no respect until they actually do something they should be respected for. like saving a life? that sounds good. but no lets just go around and shoot people and ALWAYS find a way to blame it on someone else. bullshit. all of you that say police are great people obviously have never had to deal with them. try and tell me those cops never went around when they were young running with a pair of scissors. give me a break. not to mention this kid was mentally disabled. HELLO?!!!? if i was walking by that school and asked him to put those scissors down and he refused...BECAUSE HE'S MENTALLY RETARDED...and i just happened to have a gun and shot him TWICE IN THE STOMACH...id be in jail quicker than you could snap your fingers. where are these cops? getting paid for doing fucking nothing besides ruining people's lives. you dont think police brutality exists? do some damn research. videos dont lie. police reports do.
The kid was not stupid. (referring to the person that call him stupid). If a person suffer with mentionl disorde they tender to respond to thing and a different aspect then other. I loved all people yellow, white, blue, and black. But i bet he is a black african american boy and the police was white male. the police office shot the boy not because he felt his life was at risk but because he was black and knew he could get away with that. Bitch
This is why most people hate the cops. This is a prime example. Why not talk to the kid istead of shooting twice. Police need to understand that some people do have disabilites.
these police officers are not brave, they are pathetic and 99 per cent do not deserve the badge they so easily recieve. police are wannabe's who think they are better than everyone else and know everything. they hate people who speak out against them.
but seriously?!?!?! this kid is mentally challenged they knew it, i know it we all know it. i have a mentally challenged kid who lives right next to me they are not bed just treat them good and they'll be good.
i've have even heard of police laughing at he brutality of other officers. so why then do they get a badge ?
they have no discipline.
I am angry i mean its just a kid. They could of tazered the kid or something not kill him. Mark my words people, the police will end up taking over the world unless we do something about it.
This is fucked. This is why the US is a fucked up place. A KID who is mentally disabled with a pair of SCISSORS is shot by police who are specialized in law enforcement and deal with these situations. The kid may be posing a risk, but did not advance towards the police or about to injure anyone and thus did not leave the police with no choice but to evoke such a drastic action as incapacitate take him by a gunshot wound. This is a blatant abuse of police powers.
And this is exactly why they have tasers, to disarm people in these situations. Police use a taser on an university student asking a question at a politician's meeting and then when a kid is holding scissors he gets shot. What kind of fucked up society is this?
"it was very stupid of the kid.. weather he was mentally retarded or not."
he cant control it, you dumdum. its true, the police are there to protect us..but you know what, that does not give them the right to start taking advantage of that honor or the privilege to hold a gun. they had no right to shoot that child in the stomach, whether he was holding scissors or not. they seriously need training.
for those who have given your views in favour of the police. This fifteen year old child would be even younger in mind, for the years that he is due to his impaired developement. He would have been more scared of the police, than the police being scared of him.
Look at all the other psycho cops defending a bad cops behavior.
No he shouldn't have shot a kid with scissors. Good god I've served overseas and seen much worse than that and we didn't use deadly force for these kind of situations.
I hate nearly all cops by the way and would rather put up with the crime than to have these racist corrupt pieces of shit in any precinct.
Last summer here in Minnesota an off duty deputy followed a car of young adults who he knew the driver had a record of getting into trouble. Followed him, when he stopped at his home the off duty deputy started an altercation; the young man only had swimming trunks on, he didn't know he was talking to a police officer and when the kid got the best of him...the deputy pulled his gun and shot the kid dead. The Minnesota grand jury said the officer had every right. So there you have it. Many of the writers on this blog seem to have no wisdom or idea about how to handle others especially in this instance, the young man was outside his school, a school that local officers should realize help students with coping skills. These cops, at best, will get a slap on the wrists...I guess we just don't pay them enough to know how to disarm a kid with a pair of scissors or run into the school and find a teacher who could bring the kid down to reality...No,that's way too easy...you'd have to have two brain cells to rub together to solve a complex problem like that...so your next best bet is to just shoot 'em. what a country we live in heh? what a world?
Did you ever stop and asked yourself how come white cops murder black children accidentally?
How many black children have to die at the hands of white cops for America to say it might be deliberate?
Did you ever stop and asked yourself how come white cops murder a 92 year old senior citizen (Kathryn Johnston) why did three white cops after shooting a 92 year old black woman39 times 6 hitting their mark! Why did they have to handcuff her while she was dying?
Did you ever stop and asked yourself how come white cops shoot and murder black cops accidentally
How many black cops have to die at the hands of white cops for America to say it might be deliberate?
Did you ever stop and asked yourself how come in Montana where there is many Meth Labs run by white people with children present. And cops raid there Meth Lap white children are not accidentally muder? How many black children have to die at the hands of white cops for America to say it might be deliberate?
Did you ever stop and asked yourself how come white cops murder black adult males accidentally?
From shooting in the back while face down to being beating to death! All America are becoming ok with black males being murder and beating by cops
Last question why is it that all these white talk shows that are reporting on the Mel Gibson rants. Acting so surprise? This country have live forever with THE ANGRY WHITE MAN! Republican David Duke spread hate and ran for President...Rush Limbaugh. and Mel Gibson could hang out and be good friends...Sean Hannity and Mel Gibson could hang out together and Glenn Beck and Mel Gibson would be good buddy! All of a sudden all these whiter people are so surprist!
read about Shannon Smith my son, who was shoot 7 times in the back, still strapped in his seat belt..over 15.4 in gas for his car..which he lived in the same town, and they had let him charge gas there before ..and he had always payed his bill the next day..3 cops involved, small towns// cops are being milatrized trained to shoot to kill..click on -- p-u-p-s.com which stands for parents against unjustafied police shootings. please sign his guest book..thank you terry
Ok, look, I totally agree that most police officers are not good people. They abuse their power on a daily basis, but sometimes you have to lay off this rant about "TAZER! STUN GUN! WHAT?! PEPPER SPRAY, SHOOT HIM IN THE LEG!" For one, the police are trained to defend themselves first, at all costs. Yea sure, that may sound ridiculous, but wouldnt you? Its not that crazy, the police arent here to die for you, sorry, get over youselves. Secondly those methods are to never be used while someone is wielding a weapon. Period. Always shoot if there is a weapon. If a thug came up to you on the street, would you rather have a bottle of pepper spray, or a gun? I know I prefer to always carry a gun. Another thing, have any of you people saying "Shoot him in the leg! why twice?!" ever even held a gun before? Most of the world's best marksmen couldn't just "shoot him in the leg" when he is running at you, and moving around during a high pressure situation like that. As for the "why did they shoot him twice?" comments, that is there training. When you teach a dog to sit when you say sit, would you expect it to lay down when you say sit? No, humans are animals too. That is exactly what the training is for, don't think, react. Anyone else who has been in the military can tell you that. I love this site for exposing a lot of criminals out there, but sometimes I feel like you all are just reaching for material.. This is a clear case of the officer protecting himself. That kid is lucky he didn't get is teeth blown out the back of his neck...
If I were a judge handling the case I'd put the officers in prison for life. Scisors can't kill you liars. I for one am never calling the police for any reason. They're cruel murders who don't care about anybody. I don't think the police should have any kind of weapon to tell you truth.I think the citizens should perform arrests and police only give evidense.
well its true that perhaps police can usually always do something different then what may happen., but everyone can always bitch about it and complain. Even though they are not the ones out there doing the very difficult job that police have to do. Unless you were there and in that situation and who knows how it really went down, all you hear is what media wants you to hear... And media is only about what sells, not what might have really happened. I know that sometimes ya, some officers, ya just dont know, and ya they prob. crooked. but for the other 85% of officers that are just trying to do their best its damn difficult.
~JP~
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